What about the different forms of ins zu der die das den etc. When would you determine which one to use? i.e. Wohin gehen wir? zum Stadtzentrum zur Stadtzentrum in die Stadtzentrum in den Stadtzentrum
That's a good question and I should probably add that to "Difference between zu, nach and in " :)
Some of the words you used are basically two words that are merged together and become one single word. The genus of the place where you go is always what determines whether you use zum, zur, etc. - so if you go to your car, the genus of the car determines which word to use. You need to be careful though, since it does not influence whether you use zu or in. The difference between zu and in is not really a grammatical difference but a difference in meaning. If you say "Ich gehe in die Toilette" you didn't make a grammatical mistake but you'll need some diving gear to realize your plan.
I'll go straight to some examples using the words Zirkus (der, masculine =circus), Scheune (die, feminine = barn) and Haus (das, neutral = house)
Wohin gehen wir? Wir gehen in den Zirkus. Wir gehen in die Scheune. Wir gehen in das Haus. --> Wir gehen ins Haus. ins = in das
For neutral words you can either use "in das" or "ins". "Ins" and "in das" have the exact same meaning. This does not work with feminine and masculine words - at least not in standard German. There are some colloquial/dialect ways to do that too, but that's never used in writing (except for messengers and such).
Next one: Wohin gehen wir? Wir gehen zu dem Zirkus. --> Wir gehen zum Zirkus. Wir gehen zu der Scheune. --> Wir gehen zur Scheune. Wir gehen zu dem Haus. --> Wir gehen zum Haus.
zum = zu dem zur = zu der
So here we have one two other merged words; "zum" and "zur". It follows the same logic as "ins" and in das, so zum is the exact same thing as zu dem and zur is the exact same thing as zu der.
In your example you used Stadtzentrum (das, neutral = city centre/downtown/...) In my opinion using "in" and "zu" both works fine here. It won't become some nonsense as the toilet example I gave earlier, but I personally would probably use "in". So you've got two options here. Your first one was already correct.
"Wir gehen zum Stadtzentrum." "Wir gehen ins Stadtzentrum." (well, or "Wir gehen in das Stadtzentrum.", so we actually got 3 ways of saying it.)
I hope that this somehow made sense to you and that I was able to help you a little ;) If you have further questions about this topic or anything else, just go ahead!
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Mit Freundlichen Grüßen Ad Rienks (nickname kwibus in LingQ)
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What about the different forms of ins zu der die das den etc. When would you determine which one to use? i.e.
ReplyDeleteWohin gehen wir?
zum Stadtzentrum
zur Stadtzentrum
in die Stadtzentrum
in den Stadtzentrum
That's a good question and I should probably add that to "Difference between zu, nach and in " :)
DeleteSome of the words you used are basically two words that are merged together and become one single word. The genus of the place where you go is always what determines whether you use zum, zur, etc. - so if you go to your car, the genus of the car determines which word to use.
You need to be careful though, since it does not influence whether you use zu or in. The difference between zu and in is not really a grammatical difference but a difference in meaning. If you say "Ich gehe in die Toilette" you didn't make a grammatical mistake but you'll need some diving gear to realize your plan.
I'll go straight to some examples using the words Zirkus (der, masculine =circus), Scheune (die, feminine = barn) and Haus (das, neutral = house)
Wohin gehen wir?
Wir gehen in den Zirkus.
Wir gehen in die Scheune.
Wir gehen in das Haus. --> Wir gehen ins Haus.
ins = in das
For neutral words you can either use "in das" or "ins". "Ins" and "in das" have the exact same meaning. This does not work with feminine and masculine words - at least not in standard German. There are some colloquial/dialect ways to do that too, but that's never used in writing (except for messengers and such).
Next one:
Wohin gehen wir?
Wir gehen zu dem Zirkus. --> Wir gehen zum Zirkus.
Wir gehen zu der Scheune. --> Wir gehen zur Scheune.
Wir gehen zu dem Haus. --> Wir gehen zum Haus.
zum = zu dem
zur = zu der
So here we have one two other merged words; "zum" and "zur". It follows the same logic as "ins" and in das, so zum is the exact same thing as zu dem and zur is the exact same thing as zu der.
In your example you used Stadtzentrum (das, neutral = city centre/downtown/...)
In my opinion using "in" and "zu" both works fine here. It won't become some nonsense as the toilet example I gave earlier, but I personally would probably use "in". So you've got two options here. Your first one was already correct.
"Wir gehen zum Stadtzentrum."
"Wir gehen ins Stadtzentrum." (well, or "Wir gehen in das Stadtzentrum.", so we actually got 3 ways of saying it.)
I hope that this somehow made sense to you and that I was able to help you a little ;) If you have further questions about this topic or anything else, just go ahead!
Greetings
Alex
Hallo Alex,
ReplyDeleteDu bist auch hier zu finden; wie interessant! Und diese Blogspot hat keine Bundnis mit LingQ?
Ich muss noch Alles lesen, damit ich meine Beherrschung der Deutsche Zunge verbessern kann!
Wenn du mich antworten möchtest, kann das auch auf kwibus@cloudmail.de
Mit Freundlichen Grüßen
Ad Rienks (nickname kwibus in LingQ)
Hallo Ad,
Deletefreut mich Dich hier zu sehen! :)
Richtig, Blogspot hat mit LingQ nichts zu tun - jeder kann hier einen Blog haben.
Wenn du Fragen hast, kannst Du immer gern fragen. Falls Dich ein bestimmtes Thema interessiert kannst Du mir gern bescheid geben und ich schreibe dann etwas darüber.
Viele Grüße
Alex